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"Imprints On the Sands of Time" Pages 6 - 16 The Lampman Story

The ancestor of most of the Lampmans in America was a Palatine.

Quoting from Robinson's " History of Western Europe " - The accounts of the misery and depopulation of Germany caused by the Thirty Years' War are well nigh incredible. Thousands of villages were wiped out altogether; in some regions the population was reduced by half, in others to a third or even less, of what it had been at the opening of the conflict. The flourishing city of Augsburg was left with but sixteen thousand souls instead of eighty thousand. The people were fearfully barbarized by privation and suffering and by the atrocities of the soldiers of all the various nations". The war ended in 1648 and was the last great conflict caused by the differences between Catholics and Protestants. The Palatinate was ruled in 1618 by the Calvinist Frederick the Elector. The Elector of Saxony, was Lutheran.

The Palatines who fled from the terrors to the Holland and Flemish coast and to England were inspired to do so because England under the Protestant James I, father-in-law of Frederick the Palatine Elector, was a safe refuge. The English, although absorbing some, sent several thousand to New York, planning to encourage the production of naval stores and tar along the upper Hudson River.

W. A. Knittles' book " The Early 18th Century Palatine Emigration " and a book by Cobb - " The Story of the Palatines " detail information concerning them in Europe and here. The original immigrants arriving in America quickly spread from the upper Hudson area to Schoharie, the Mohawk Valley frontier and some, by the overland route, to Pennsylvania. Later most of the thousands went to Pennsylvania direct through Philadelphia.

The first group were pitifully poor and the British Governor Hunter of New York had to feed them (out of his own pocket, incidentally) which led to the recording of a New York Subsistence List 1710-1712. Herein is the name of Peter Lampman (1010) 3-2, 3-1.
First Generation

These figures mean 3 adults and 2 children (10 years or under) in 1710, three adults and one child in 1712. A man named Simmendinger, also an immigrant, returned to Germany in 1717, and published a list of Palatines in New York. His records, now translated for a good many years, have been very helpful to genealogists. On his list is also Peter Lampman (1010), wife Catherine (1014) and two children, living at East Camp. An early entry in the Pastor Kocherthal records lists Peter Landmann (1010) as being present at the communion service at Queensberg 3-23-1712 and also the marriage of this Peter's immigrant son, John Peter (1011) as follows -"February 24, 1719 Peter Landmann, son of Peter Landman of Stockheim, commune Litting-Isenburg and Johann, married Elizabetha Planck (1012), daughter of Johann Planck (1013), formerly a citizen of Dansenau, commune of Nassau." This Stockheim is in Hessen. Kocherthal was the early Lutheran pastor who kept the records and performed the religious ceremonies for these early German pioneers. On January 17, 1715/16 Peter Lantman (1010) took the Naturalization Oath at Albany, New York. The identity of the one remaining child of Peter (1010) in 1712 was not clear from the Zion church records of John Caspar (1128). Zion church of Athens was the mother church of the Palatines on the Hudson. It was formed in 1704 . Here are the earliest records, with the ministers covering several small churches on both sides of the river. The birth record in the Germantown Reformed Church of the Camp of Caspar's (1128) daughter Elizabeth in 1732 makes it certain that John Caspar (1128) wife Elizabeth Row (1129) was the child. Dom Falckner, the minister of the New York City German Protestant Church has an entry 1722 in his handbook thus - Caspar Lampman (1128) for membership. Looks like a confirmation ceremony but proves the second child relationship. The biographical sketch in Hughes' "American Ancestry 1887" of Peter Lampman (1375) of Craryville stated - "the ancestor of Peter of Craryville came from Holland and settled Copake, Columbia Co. N. Y." What happened to Peter (1010) and wife Catherine is unknown. They are not listed as having returned to England or Holland. Perhaps the story of an Indian massacre at Kiskatome may be the answer, or more probable they succumbed to disease during the hard times. Careful search of all records show no other early Lampman immigrants other than this one family although there are at least 5 other Lampman name variants who were immigrants.

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1. Hottens " List of Emigrants to America " shows in 1623 one John Landman (7121) at Flourdein Hundred, Va. who may be related to the George Landman (7120) of Queen Ann Co. Maryland who per will of John Andrew of Salem, N. J. 5-1-1759 received part of an estate.

2. Rev. Falckner lists 1719 that Pieter Kastner and wife Margaretha Langmannin were wit­ nesses at baptism at Raritans, New Jersey.

3. Andreas Lantsman married Anna Mits bp. 2-6-162-, daughter of Daniel Mits and Maria de Marees ( N.Y.G. & B. Vol. 63, p. 309)

The book " 30,000 names of German, Swiss to America, Pennsylvania - 1727-1776 " lists on ship " Daniel " 9-26-1749 Johannes Landmann and Conrad Wagner.

5. The following (AQ) church records of Arent Lansman -

1660 Eodam Jan Van der Linden, and Jannetje Barents bp. Johannes wit. Arent Jeuriaen- Landsman, Cathlyntie Barents.

1661 den 30d Arent Jeuriaenszen Lantsman and Belitie Lodowyck bp. Jannetje.

1666 Eodem Arent Jeuriaenszen Lansman and Maria Belitie Lodovyck bp. Maria

1669 den 8 dict. Arent Lansman and Belitie Lodoyck pb. Jeuyraen, wit. Tryntie Roelofs

1669 or later den 4 Sept. Adrian Bogaerdt, wedr van Susanna Hamilton, married Belitje Post, wede van Arie Jeuriaensz Lansman, both residing here.

The five above are listed, not because of any known connection but because there have been recorded so many variants of the LAMPMAN spelling. The above variants are excluded from our consideration only because no further traces have been found.

It does happen to be true that some Lampman's came to America over 150 years after Peter (1010) and family. The 1880 census Philadelphia shows a Louis Lampman (5243) b. 1856, wife Elizabeth b. 1857 both born Germany and the same census Oil City, Venango Co. Pa. shows a real oddity, a Henry Lampman (5238) b. 1841, wife Mary b. 1841, both born Ireland. Louis (5243) had Amelia (5244) b. 1877 Pa. and Louis (5245) b. 1880 while Henry (5238) had daughter Mary (5239) b. 1865 Ireland and Florence (5240) b. 1871, Hary (5241) b. 1875 and Alice (5242) b. 1879, all born Pa. Other 1880 census records. Wheatland Twp. Carroll Co. Iowa has a William Lampman (5835), age 40 born Prussia, wife Theresia, age 37 born Iowa children - Anna (5836) age 11, John (5837) age 9, Theresia (5838) age 7, Mary (5839) age 5, Josephina (5840) age 3, all born Iowa. Also in Arcadia Twp. Carroll Co. Iowa a Henry Lampman (5841) b. Berlin, wife Wilhelmena, age 36 born Berlin, children - Frank (5842) age 10, son Elmenens (5843) age 8, Josepena (5844) age 2 all born Iowa.

The Lampman line was prolific with sons. The following descending tabulation, represents data from churches and many sources, which follow the code on page ahead for space saving purposes.

There has been some speculation that Peter Lampman (1010) and John Peter (1011) were one and the same person, with first wife Catherine (1014) and second wife Elizabeth Planck (1012). This while contrary to tradition in the writers branch of the family(as well as other branches) can also be refuted by the following points

1. If Peter (1011) were a widower, it would be stated so clearly in the Kocherthal marriage record, for such was this pastor's practise in the case of other widowers.

2. If Peter (1011) were a full grown of-age man at time of emigration, the Kocherthal word­ing would have been different thus " Peter Lampman (formerly of Stockheim), son of Peter Lampman (also formerly of Stockheim) etc ." In other words the criteria of pre­vious citizenship applies only to an of-age man.

3. The Simmindinger record of Peter (1010) wife Catherine 2 children in 1717 does not conflict with the Governor Hunter ration lists of 1710-1712.The Governor Hunter list distinguish adults as above 10 years old, while Simmindinger merely lists as a child any unmarried person. Since the ration lists for 1710-1712 both list 3 adults, John Peter (1011) must have been at least eleven years old in 1710. Thus in 1717 he would be 18 and in 1719 when he married, 20 or even a few years more, all of which is reasonable and likely, especially since Elizabeth Plank was 23 when married.

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4. The Lampman papers in the New York State genealogy library agree with the ones in our branch of the family showing that Rev. Lewis Lampman (638), a genealogist, in 1885 was inquiring in Germany and among older Lampmans here for a - missing Peter. This can only be the Peter (1010) since at the Reverend's time, his ancestry was clear back to and including John Peter (1011).

5. Catherine (1014), if she died between 1717 and 1719, would surely have been listed in Rev. Kocherthals record of deaths, but there is so nuch listing.

Finally success. The records of Peter Lampman 1010) were located in Hessen Germany, in 1974 by Herr Wittman see page 87). Also in 1974, David Lampman (5226) went to Germany and in company with Herr Wittman and others searched many church records in Hessen and found many Lampmans recorded. The story and data follows.

The Dekanat of Budingen informed that the parochial records of Stockheim (remember the Pastor Kocherthal record) were stored in Rohrbach. The pastor there wrote that a Peter Lampman (1011) was b. 4-5 1700, his parents being Peter Lampman (1010) and Catherina. Later data from another source, looking at the same record, states it was son Johann Peter (1011) bp. 6-41701. The letter from the pastor, R. Fehling, gives the following data:

Excerpt from the record community Stockheim, which is found in the oldest Church Register of the Church in Rohrbach. It includes the years 1699-1732.

Page Year

65 1700 On April 5 a young son was born to Peter Lampman and his wife Catharina who was brought for baptism by Michael Dinges son Peter, and was named Peter. (1011).

67 1703 Aug- 5, the daughter of Peter Lambmans was born and baptized on Aug, 8. Witness was Anna Elisabeth, Class Windecker's daughter. She was named Anna Elisabeth (9213).

218 1704 On May 29 the youngest daughter of Peter Lambmann d. and was buried on May 30 (the same month).
From the little record book of the pastor:

1705 Johann Caspar (1128) b. 10-21, bp. 10-22, son of Peter Lampmanns (1010) and Catharina. Godparents Johann Caspar Deckmann (8924) and Elizabeth, his wife.

In the records of Parish Dudelsheim is the marriage 7-20-1698 at Stockheim of Peter Landtmann (1010) from Gedern, son of the late Balthasar Landtmann 8925) to Catherina (1014), widow of the late Cunradt Frikk en) (8927). Also the marriage 11 11 1685 (page 181) of Conradt Frikk (8927) to Catharina Dekmann (1014), daughter of Conrad Deckmann (9010); also the death of Conradt Frikk (8927) 10-24­1692, age 37. Found in the Castle of Ortenberg in record book Akte X G 436, p. 9 was the permit dated 7-7 1698 "Peter Lambmann of Gedern has permission to go to Stockheim by paying 10 guldens, signed by the Fursten.

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Two separate searches were made of the Gedern records. The second one included deaths, communicants, confirmands as well as births and marriages. There were many Lambmann, Land­man, Landtman entries. The oldest, records show three persons, who may or may not be brothers: Balthazar Landmann (0974), Christian Landmann (8977) (the name of both in descent is sometimes spelled Landtman, and Peter Lambman (8988) (it should be pointed out here the name spelling LAMBMAN persists in the Gedern records). Thus, the second search turned up the clear clue which shows Balthasar Lambman (8925) was father of Peter (1010), the immigr ant. In addition to the name spelling is the statement in Peter's (1010) marriage record in 1698 that he was son of the late Balthasar Landtman (note this spelling was in a Dudelsheim record not Gedern), while the other possi­ble Balthasar (8995), son of Christian (8977) death record is 1722. Peter's (1010) name was spelled Lambmann in the permit to go from Gedern to Stockheim, and also in the emi­gration request. We find that Peter Lanbman (1010) was listed as a communicant at Gedern in 1693. So the records of Lamb­mans is:

2-18-1685 d. Anna, widow of Peter Lambman (8988) 6-1648 Peter Lambman (8988) and Anna N.N. bp. Juliana (8994), who m. 6-21-1677 (bachelor) John Reinert (9161), son of the late Hans Reinert (9162) m. the virgin Juliana Lamb­ mannin (8994), daughter of the late honour­ able Peter Lambman (8988) and d. 7-5-1729.

1-1657. Peter Lambman (8988) and Anna bp, Christoph (9163) who m. 5-221673, Anna Schmeidin (9164) and d. 6-10 1731 in Budingen Christoph and Anna bp- 7-2-1680 Johannes (9166) who m. 1-22­1705 Catharina Schlag (9167) and d. 9-5­ 1730, and 12-20 1682 Christian (9168) who m. 11-21-1708 Catharina Wagner 9169 and d. 9-10-1762. Stoffel Lambman (9163 m. 1-15­1695 Katherine Kaasin (9165) ''mit einer Predigt Hochzeit gehalten und cop."

There is no birth record of birth of sure son Friederich (9170) of whom the following: 3-29 1720 d. Friedrich Lambman, wid., age 66 years.

10-21 1684 m. Friedrich Lambmann with Anna (9171 ) , daughter of Valentin Oberheims (9172).

Nor of sure son Kraft Lambman (9173) 10-22 1671 Kraft Lambmann (9173) and wife Juliana Ruppel Elibsabeth Schneider (9176). Both (9175) and (9176) d. 1741.

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Nor of sure son Balthasar (8925), the father of Peter Lampman (1010)

4-21-1667 Balthasar Lambmann (8925) and Sabina Marg. Arnold (8989) bp. Johannes (8990) who m. 12-1696 Marg. Schupp (9177) and d. 11­-22-1737.

9-25-1672 Balthasar (8925) and Sabina (8989) bp. Philipp (8991) who m. 4-8-1706 Anna Maria Gunterin (9178) and d. 6-8-1741.

11-3-1675 Balthasar (8925) and Sabina (8989) bp. Catherina (8992).

3-18-1681 Balthasar (8925) and Sabina (8989) bp. Anna Maria ( 8993) who married Lorenz Giermann von

der Hutte (9179) and d. 11-11-1726.

10-3-1684 Balthasar (8925) and Sabina (8989) bp. Gila Juliana (8994).

12-15-1709 Sabina Margaretha (8989), widow of Balthes Lambman (8925) d. age 78-3/4 years.

Other Lambman records are 9-25-1676 Johannes Lambmann (9240), son of Frederick 11-18-1696 Engelhard Lambmannn (9241) m. Anna Maria (9242) daughter of Lips (Philipp.) Kehme (9243).

11-10-1698 Jacob Lambman (9244) m. Susanna (9245)9 daughter of the Herrmiller Johann Philip Dreuten (9246).

10-29-1708 Anna Elisabeth, Stoffel Lambmann (9163) Oberhau, 1-1/2 years.

7-31-1711 Stephan Lambman 9185 , son of the elder Stoffel Lambman (9163 ) m. Anna W Wagnerin (9186 ) daughter of Johann Wagner (9187).

8-22-1713 Peter (9247), son of Johannes (9175?) Lambmann, der Lange, 13 years old.

Now we will tabulate the other Gedern records, first the early Balthasar (8974).

9-15-1644 Balthes Landmann (8974 ) and Barbara Lehinger (Lehnin) (8975) bp. Michael (8976).

4-17-1763 Michael Landman (8976) m. Catharina Schwabin (9184) from Volkershain and d. 5-9-1726, age 82; Katherina (9184 ) d. 11-15-1697.

4-7-1674 Michael Landman (8976) and Catherina bp. Johannes (9190).

4-26-1681 m. bachelor Christian Landmann, the Honourable Balthasar Landmann (8974) Beschworener, with virgin Catharina (9183), daughter of the late Hans Reinert (9162).

3-14-1682 Christian Landmann (9182) and Catharina (9183) bp. Johann Philipp (9189) who m. Catharina Dechert (9188) from Gemetshausen? and d. 12-17-1 748. She d. 1747.

1-14-1692 d. Balth. Landmann (8974), the elder, buried with sermon.

12-13-1694 d. Katherina (9183). wife of Christian Landt­man (9182).

10-17-1695 Christian Landtmann (9182), widower, m. Elisabetha Schultheissen (8987) from Schon­hausen.

1-20-1696 Barbara (8975). widow of Baltzer Landtmann (8974) died.

10-9-1701 m. Steinbach in AmtGiessen Johannes Landman (9190) with Eva L.-pgin (9191) from Niederheld in Dillenburg.

11-25-1710 m. Johan Philipp Landtman (9192), son of Michael Landtman (8976) with Anna Maria Jockelin (9193), daughter of Conrad Jockel (9194).

1-5-1749 d. Johannes Landman (9190). Without proof it is possible Hans Landman (9230) is son of Balthasar (8974).

8-38-1679 Hans Landman (9230) and Catherine Muller (9236) bp. Johan Jacob (9231), who d. 3-24­-1745, and on 3-15-1685 they bp. Johannes (9237), who m. 1-28-1712 Juliana Muller (9238) who d. 1-26-1746. Catharina (9236) d. 8-22­-1697.

2-2-1715 Hans Landtmann (9230) d. age 70.

Next the records of the early Christian Landmann (8977).

4-19-1652 bp* of Johannes (8979) to Christian Landmann (8977), miller, and Juliana Diehl (8978).

11-28 1656 bp. of Jacob (8980) to Christian Landmann (8977) and Juliana Diehl (8978).

11 17-1674 marriage of bachelor Philipp Landmann (8981), miller in Birstein son of the late Gerichtss­ohoffen (Judge's Assistant) and church Elder Christian Landman (8977) to Juliana Large (8982), daughter of the Honourable Johann Joachim Lange (8983), also Gerichtsschoffe and Church Elder here.

10 14 1675 marriage of Johannes Landmann (8979), son of the late Christ. Landmann (8977), Gerichts­schoffen and Church Elder, with Juliana Diel (8984), daughter of the shed-servant Peter Diel (8985).

7-22 1677 d. Gela (8978) widow of the late Christian Landmann (8977), age 61 10-41678 Joh Landman (8979) and Julian Diehl (8984) bp. Johann Tobias (9195)

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9-9-1679 Philipp Landmann (8981 and Juliana Lang (8982) bp. Johann Jacob (9211) .

10-16-1683 Joh Landman (8979) and Juliann bp. Johan Philipp (9200).

4-8-1681 Joh Landmann (8979) and Juliana bp. Anna Mar­garetha (9198).

11-8--1682 m. bachelor Jacob Landman (8980), son of the late Christian Landman, with Margaretha (9180), daughter of Engelhard Ruppel (9181) .

7-16 1691 Johan Adam (9233), son of the late Philipp Landman (8981) died.

7-25-1691 Peter (9234), son of the late Philipp Land­mann (8981) died. Juliana (8982) d. 5-4-1693.

12-22-1695 d. Johann Niclas (9235) son of the late Philipp Landtmann (8981 , formerly miller, at Hirzenhain.

6-9-1697 Christoffel Schlagk (9220) m. Anna Elisabetha (8997), daughter of Balthasar Landtman (8995)•

11-13-1704 Christoffel Limbert (9199), son of Franz Lim­ bert (9197), m. Anna Margaretha (9198), daughter of the smith Johannes Landtmann (8979).

1-15-1705 d. Juliana (8984), wife of smith Johannes Landtmann (8979) , age 56 .

10-8-1706 at Ortenbert, Johannes Landmann (9211) m. Anna Dorothea Weisenberger (9212), who d.11- 1725.

11-10-1707 Johann Paul Oberheim (9225), son of the elder Jacob Oberheim (9226) m. Barbara Elisabetha Landtmannin (9224), daughter of the smith Johannes Landtman (8979).

10-9 1708 Johann Tobias Landtmann (9195) son of the smith Johannes Landtmann (8979, m. Elisa­betha Lambertin (9196), daughter of Franz Limbert (9197).

2-5-1711 d. Margaretha, wife of Jacob Landtman (8980), age 55.

1-8-1711 m. Johan Philipp Landtmann (9200), son of the smith Johannes Landtmann (8978) with Anna Winterin (9201), daughter of the late Johannes Winter (9202) from Ober Seemen.

2-287-726 at Gedern Johann Landmann (9211) m. Appolonia Zimmer (9248) from Filsberg, who d. 1 -16-1752.

3-23 1738 Jacob Landtman (8980) died.

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9-29 1741 Anna Flargaretha Limbert (9198) died.

6-2-1742 Johann Philipp Landtman 9200) died.

2-22 1757 d. Johann Tobias Landtmann (9195)•

Next the records of Christians (8977) son Balthasar (8995).

12-23-1677 Hedwig Juliana (8996), wife of Balthasar Landmann (8995) died.

11-19-1675 baptism of Anna Elizabeth (8997) to Baltha­ sar Landmann (8995) and Hedwig Kornmesser (8996).

6-6-1678 the widower Balthasar Landmann (8955)p Jun., son of the Honourable Christian Landmann

(8977), deceased, m. Martha Diel (8998), dau­ ghter of the late Peter Diel (8985).

5-23-1679 baptism of Johannes (9000) to Balthasar Land­ man (8995) and Martha Diehl (8998) and also baptised by them:

2-8-1681 Anna Maria (9001)

5-29 1683 Johann Peter (9002)

10 19-1684 Maria Magdalena (9003)

9-21-1686 Juliana (9004), who d. 10-29-1709 age 23, daughter of Baltzer Landman (8995 Gericht­sschoffe.

5-151689 twins Johann Christoph (9005), who d. 1-19­- 1690 and Loisa Christiana (9006).

1-30-1691 Jacob (9007).

2-19-1693 d. Martha (8998), wife of Balthes Landtman (8995).

5-5 1698 m. third Balthasar Landtmann (8995), widower, with Anna Maria (9008), daughter of Johann Hofen (9009).

4-29 1700 Johan Balthasar Hof (9205) m. Anna. Maria Landtmanin (9001).

4-15-1706 Henrich Lehning (9210) m. Maria Magdalena Landtmann (9003), daughter of the Gerichsschoffen Balthasar Landtman (8995).

4-15-1706 Johannes Landtman (9000) bach-miller, m. Katharina Schlagkin (9203), daughter of Gerichtschoffen Bernard Schlagkens (9204).

9-12 1708 Johann Peter Landtman (9002), son of Balth­ asar Landtman (8995) m. Anna Kunigunda Royzin (Reizin) (9207), daughter of Johan Cunrad

Royzen (9208) from Homberg on der Ohm.

11-26 1711 Jacob Landtman (9007), son of Gerichtssch offen Balzer Landtman (8995), m. Anna Girt­raud Diehlin (9227), daughter of Peter Diehl.

2-21 1713 John Peter Landtman (9002) m. 2nd Esther Maria Ruppel (9209).

9-18-1712 Anna Kunigunda (9207), wife of Johan Peter Landtman (9002) d. a 29 y. 4 mo.

4-19-1714 Anna Maria Hof (9001 m. Henr.. Klug (9206) from Moos.

5-17-1722 (the key item) Master Balthes Landman, Gerichtsman here, d. age 74.

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7-24-1740 d. Anna Maria Klug (9001).

1-7-1743 d. Johannes Landman (9000).

9-19-1743 d. Johann Peter Landman (9002).

12-7-1788 d. Maria Lehning (9003).

Other unplaced Landmans are:

6-6-1695 Jacob Oberheim (9215)r son of Stoffel Oberheim (9216) m. Anna Girtraud Landtmannin (9249) daughter of Balthasar Landtmann (8974 or 8995.)

4-15-1697 Johan Paul Landtman (921.7) m. Katharina (9218) daughter of Johan Hofen (9219). Johan Paul (9217) d. 11-14-1719, age 45.

11-21-1699 Balthasar Hanel? (9229) from Frischborn, the "Hocharber", m. Anna Kunigunda Landtmannin (9228).

10-28-1703 d. Johan Christoffel (9239)r son of Johannes Landtman (?), a soldier, 10 weeks old.

3-5-1705 Johan B althasar Landtman (9221) m. Anna Katherina Rochelin (9222), daughter of Johann Valentin Rochels (9223) from Frischborn. "This Landtman is miller at the Hof-mill in Hirzenhain."

2-22-1708 Johann Jacob Landtman (9231), son of Hans Landtman (9230) m. Anna Margaretha (8986), daughter of the late Johan Weber (9232).

The archivist of Furstlich Ysenburg and Budingische Rentkammer, Dr. D. Reimers states the only document they have concerning any Lampmans is an application for emigration of a group, including Peter Lambman (1010), addressed to their Soverign Count Carl August zu Ysenburg and Budingen. The Permit, dated 8-31-1709, was granted and it reads "Peter Lampman (1010) with wife and 4 children".

This new find and the record of Catherina Deckman's (1014) 1st marriage to Conradt Frikk (8927), which produced two children: Johann Curt (8924) b.1686 Stockheim and Jorg (9023) b. 1688 Stockheim, raises some questions the answers to which can only be guessed at. It is possible, but highly improbable, that one or two of the Frikk children were included in the 4 children (kindern) of peter (1010) as listed in the permit to emigrate. They would have been 21 and 23 years old in 1709 and not likely to be listed as kindern. By 1710, after a stopover in England, the Governor Hunter ration list shows Peter 3 adults, 2 children, thus one child must have died in between. That still leaves another child to account for, and this could easily be the Margaretha Langmannin (8654), wife of Pieter Kastner (8655) mentioned on page 47. If this is so, the 3 adults in 1710 would be Peter (1010) wife Catherine and Margaretha b. ca. 1698, the two

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children John Peter (1011) and John Caspar (1128). By 1712 Margaretha has m. and John Peter becomes the third adult, John Caspar the one child. Suppose someone suggests substituting Frederick (1153) for Margaretha. This would change the present records of his age at time of emigration to Canada and also at death by a generation, most improbable. And if Frederick (1153) were the child that disappeared from 1709 to 1710, this would require that even more years be added to the already most improbable situation. Also should be remembered the Rohrbach Church record of death in 1704 of Peters (1010) youngest daughter, making it most likely the third adult in 1710 in New York was female.

The research in Germany uncovered this item: Hans Lampman (8900) was b. 6-25 1643 in Budingen, illegitimate son of a daughter of Bastian Lampman (8901) who lived in Altwiedermus, near Budingen. This Bastian is the earliest Lampman so far found in the Lampman area in Hessen.

The Documentary History of New York, Vol* 111, Pg. 724, shows Peter Lampman (1010) or (1011) on a list made by Jacob Sharp to Governor Burnett of all the heads of families that are willing to continue on that land (Livingston), being 63 in number. On 1-17­171516 at a mayor's council held at ye city hall of Albany, Peter Lantman (1010) took an oath of allegiance.

The latest data (A pril, 1975) from Germany adds the following:

Christoph Lambman (9163) was bp@ 1651. He and Anna Schmeid (9164) bp. 1677 Jacob (9214), 1689 Stephen (9185). Christoph (9163) and Katherine Kaas (9165) bp, Johanna Margareth (9304) 1695, Christina Barbara (9305) 1699.

Friedrich Lambman (9170) m. 1684 Anna Oberheim (9172) and they bp. Gertraut (9307) 1685; Anna Martha (9308) 1687; Cath. (9309) 1690 Johann Philipp (9310) 1693. Friedrich (9170) and a first wife bp. Johannes (9240) 1676, Martin (9311) 1682, Eulalia Elizabetha (9312) 1678.

Engelhard Lambman (9241) and Anna Kehm (9243) bp. 1697 Anna Gertraud (9306).

Christian Landmann (9182) and Catharina Reinhard (9183) also bp. 1685 Elizabethe (9313) and Johannes (9314) bp. 1690, d. 1690. Christian (9182) and Elizabeth Schultheiss (8987) bp, Anna Maria (9315) 1696; Johannes (9316) and Engelhard (9317) twins 1699.

Hans Landmann (9230) and Catharina Muller (9226) also bp. 1682 Jacob (9324), 1688 Anna Maria (9325)9 1691 Philipp (9326) who m. 1716.

Gertraud Landmann (9318)9 probable daughter of Christian (8977 , m . 10-14-1675, Johannes Diel (9319), son of Peter D. (8985)

Johannes Landmann (8979) and Juliana Diehl (8984) also

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bp. Anna Kunigunda (9228) 1676; Maria Magdalena (9320) 16851 Catharina Margar. (9321) 1690; Johan Christoph (9322) 1693; Anna `Maria (9637) 1696; Elizabeth (9638) 1697; Catharine (9639) 1698.

Johann Paul Landtman (9217) and Catharina Hoff (9218) bp. 1699 Johann Balthasar (9323).
DECKMANN (DEGMAN)

Catharina Deckmann (1014), wife of Peter Lampman (1010) was baptised 1­6-1665, Parish Bleichenbach record, child of Conradt Deckmann (9010) and Juliana Stroh (9011), daughter of Georg Stroh (9012) of Stockheim, who were m. 10-23-1662 at Bleichenbach. The Godparent at baptism of Catharina (1014) was "ConradDegmann's (9010) sister, Peter Degmann's (9018) daughter from Bleichenbach Catharina (9250)". Conradt and Juliana Stroh also had Henrich (9013) bp. 1-17-1667; Johann Ludwig 9014 bp. 2-26­1668; Anna (9015) bp. 1671; Johann Caspar (9252) bp. 1-31-1673. Juliana Stroh (9011) d. Stockhei.m 1674, age 35, and then the Dudelsheim Church records in 4 12-1675 Conradt Deckmann (9010). viduus Stockheim, son of Peter Deckmann (9018) at Bleichenbach m. Juliana Grossburtz (9017), daughter of Friedrich Grossburtz (9019), cowherd, at Rot. with further issue; one was, Johann Georg (9253) at whose bp. the Godfather listed was Conrads (9010) brother Georg Dekmann (9257.) .

Conradt Deckmann (9010) as Johann Conrad Deckmann, d. 6-20 1708 Stockheim, buried 6-22-1708. Juliana De ckman nin (9017), widow of the late Conrad Dekmans (9010) d. 1-7-1733, buried 1 11-1733 Stockheim, age 86, m. about 36 years, 10 children.

The Parish Bleichenbach records four baptisms to Peter Deckmann (probably 9018 but also possible as a son of 9018) and wife Elizabeth:

9-14-1656 Susanna (9016)

8-1-1660 Johann Georg (9020) Godfather Georg Stroh

6-21 1663 Elizabeth (9from 0221) Stockheim

8 10-1666 Peter (9022), d. and buried 10-1 1667

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